This should be rather informative.
Jul. 1st, 2009 11:27 amTaken from
redbrunja :
Okay, flist, time to get constructive and critical... but nicely, please.
Pick one piece of fanfiction I've written. I'll tell you one thing I didn't like about it, one thing I did and one thing I wish I would have done differently. Then, you give me one thing you didn't like, one thing you liked and one comment about it. The comment can be a question or in general remark or whatever you want. Post this in your journal so I can do the same.
Okay, flist, time to get constructive and critical... but nicely, please.
Pick one piece of fanfiction I've written. I'll tell you one thing I didn't like about it, one thing I did and one thing I wish I would have done differently. Then, you give me one thing you didn't like, one thing you liked and one comment about it. The comment can be a question or in general remark or whatever you want. Post this in your journal so I can do the same.
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Date: 2009-07-01 06:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-01 08:14 pm (UTC)What I dont like about it are all the romantic/fanfic/general cliches I used because I didnt know any better. And all the grammatical errors and general lack of refinement. One thing I would have done differently is take my time. I was so driven and motivated (10k chapter per week? Jesus what was I on?) that I think I sacrificed a lot of finesse. Someday when I have more time I want to go back and fix all of that in a big overhaul.
It was my first time, and like all first times, it was rushed and sloppy and laughably embarassing compared to what I do now. But I remember it fondly and it will always have a special place. XDD
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Date: 2009-07-02 02:19 am (UTC)What I didn't like... I'm not sure this makes sense, but I noticed an tendency to tell rather than show in the narrative. Thought processes often went like this: "X thought this, then thought this, then realized this other thing." There's nothing really wrong with that, I just think that it's not necessary to draw an explicit map of the character's rationalizations if it's been clearly demonstrated. Which is massively nitpicky, I realize, but it's really the only thing that stood out to me that I thought could use fixing.
I guess my question would be: as this was your first fic, and I know that Kakashi/Sakura is your OTP, why did you write an Itachi/Sakura? What drew you to the pairing and prompted you to write this fic?
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Date: 2009-07-02 05:40 pm (UTC)When I got the idea to write that fic, I was actually attempting to write a Genma/Shizune. I think it was a scene in the movie Munich, where they have to spend the night in this house with a group that turns out to be their enemy. But for one night they call a truce for survival's sake, and during that night they get to know each other and see each other as human beings. It struck me as the very definition of "gray." There is no good/evil, right/wrong, only our perception. It suddenly hit me that I could write a fic about that: Sakura being forced to see the humanity of the other side through proximity and circumstance. I had just gotten into ItaSaku and the only fics Id read were Leafygirls, so I had no idea the kidnapping thing had been done 92813991 times already. Lol. But I guess I had a fresh take on it, and definitely a fresh ending.
The reason I didnt write KakaSaku was because it IS my OTP, and I didnt want to screw it up. I was nervous to write one, and also, in KakaSaku, the same 4-5 plots have been rehashed a million times and I didnt have anything fresh. I do now. I have an awesome plot inspired by the recent manga that (hopefully) will be my big fanfiction opus.
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Date: 2009-07-03 12:20 am (UTC)<3 <3 <3
Any idea when?????
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Date: 2009-07-03 12:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-01 07:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-01 08:18 pm (UTC)And the fact that its my OTP, and so far its the only fic Ive written of them. XD
If I dislike anything its probably the small lack of finesse and editing. Thats the one thing that always gets me when I read back over my fics.
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Date: 2009-07-02 02:54 am (UTC)I think my only problem, (Beside a little more kink and more sex) is some of the adorably awkward scenes where you just cringe because everything goes wrong, even though its funny (like the whole roast situation.) You want everything to go perfectly for them and simultaneously groan and laugh when it doesn't, but of course, thats the point!
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Date: 2009-07-01 07:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-01 08:26 pm (UTC)What I dislike is that its both too long and not long enough. There was probably quite a bit I could have left out, but I wanted to include all the ideas and snippets I had, and so I should have followed through on them and not left them hanging. I just didnt have room. The fic was already a monster.
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Date: 2009-07-02 04:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 04:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 06:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 07:57 pm (UTC)The reasons you gave are the reason I love Vertigo so much too, and why I wanted to write it. I wanted to show the darker side of being a ninja, what they really are and what they really do. And for Sakura in the world of missing nin, being a healer takes a back burner to being a fighter. Some people didnt like that she wasnt as sensitive and compassionate, not as much of a "healer" type. But oh well. Thats what happens when protecting your own life is more important than saving others. I hate Sakura-joins-Akatsuki fics where she always cries compassionately for others and wants to heal every goddamn person she encounters no matter how terrible they are or what her relationship to them is.
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Date: 2009-07-02 08:44 pm (UTC)Some people are fucking morons who think being a healer means you are required to heal EVERYONE and have no spine. Goddamn that's a trope I hate.
And for a while I was reading Itachi/Sakura fics in an 'it's there, no one's really writing Kakashi/Sakura, let's give it a whirl' (the same attitude I took towards Deidara/Sakura, frankly). But where I ended up liking a lot of DeiSaku fics, I realized that I do not like Itachi/Sakura as a pairing. That's why I'm not enjoying Vespertine - despite being well-written, it's not a pairing or a dynamic that I enjoy.
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Date: 2009-07-02 08:59 pm (UTC)After Vespertine Ill be writing my final multichapter fanfic and its an epic KakaSaku based around recent events in the manga. Im also thinking about claiming KakaSaku for the 30 lemons comm. Im finally ready to dedicate myself to my OTP. XD
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Date: 2009-07-02 09:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 09:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 09:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-03 12:44 am (UTC)Btw, you still havent answered my response to this meme on your journal. :P
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Date: 2009-07-03 01:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 01:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 05:45 pm (UTC)What I didnt like was that my writing was kind of in a transitional stage at that time, and theres some fluctuation in style and perspective changes that I should have been more conscious of. Most people who arent writers probably wouldnt notice, but it bothers me a little.
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Date: 2009-07-02 02:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 05:19 pm (UTC)Another thing I did like was the little bit of DeiSaku. It totally wasnt planned, but it happened naturally because they have such natural chemistry. And if it hadnt happened there would be no Silver Lining, which I adore. XD
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Date: 2009-07-02 06:48 pm (UTC)And that was pretty much the only thing I didn't like; Ita's death, though it had to happen );
Do you ever have thoughts of making like these little drabble outtakes of Sakura and Dei in the future, in the midst of what they're doing now?
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Date: 2009-07-02 07:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-04 05:23 pm (UTC)Gah, sorry for not having read any of the long ones. I have read a little of Vespertine, though, and I think your writing is improving a lot, just from having skimmed some of your much older works. XD;
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Date: 2009-07-04 06:38 pm (UTC)What I dont like is that I dont think I gave enough attention to Sai's feelings on being deflowered and what comes next. Sakura is worried about various things, meanwhile Sai is over here, newly deflowered by his female teammate, and I show almost nothing of what he's going through. It made Sakura look selfish.
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Date: 2009-07-04 09:34 pm (UTC)“Why I’m always thinking of you when you’re not with me. What I feel when you are with me. Why I have impulses to do things with you that I don’t have with anyone else.” He touched her hair again, and this time his knuckles softly brushed her cheek. “Is this what is known as . . . desire?”
D'awwww, so cute. ♥
Disliked: I'd have to agree with you that Sai's feelings could have been taken into account more. Also, this is probably just my pet peeve, but there's some dialogue in there which strikes me as generic-porn-ish:
“I need you inside me, Sai.”
“Stop talking,” she murmured against his mouth. “Do you trust me?”
I don't necessarily mind some porn dialogue; it can be pretty hot? But I do think it's good if it reflects the character's individual personality -- if it's uniquely Sakura, or uniquely whoever -- so lines like "I need you inside me" tend to irk me just a bit. (Also, it goes along with what you said about Sakura.)
Comment: Was it hard, writing a one-shot? I mean, given that most of your 'fics are long multi-chapter stories.
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Date: 2009-07-06 12:03 am (UTC)